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dilanium 2010-06-13T15:27:53
subject: re: Dog fight...
in reply to hade119 in message #1170:
Your police should be able to write up a report about it at the very least. That creates a record for the dog in case anything else happens in the future.

I'm NOT saying pursue it and try to get the other dog euthanised over it, but a dog that runs out and attacks another dog out of the blue can be very dangerous. They could do the same to another dog with an owner who doesn't know better than to try to reach in and save their dog. Or they could even attack a person. Having this reported will show that next time this happens it's not an isolated case (which hopefully it is).

If you're worried about dog attacks you can always carry a mini-blowhorn on you. They often work quite well. :)

I hate irresponsible owners who don't train or even try to stop their doing from doing shit (or worse even encourage aggressive behaviour) and then don't stand up and take responsibility when their dog attacks things.

I would tell your vet that you're giving the people whose dog attacked yours the bill and have them write it up ASAP. That way the vet knows there may be a delay- and also to have them put their late payment policy on their bill so the people know what they're getting into.

Good luck with it all. Pits can be very lovely dogs when they are cared for properly- the only problem is the people who don't care for them properly always seem to make it onto the news.

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jadefalcon1 2010-06-13T17:43:45
subject: re: Dog fight...
in reply to dilanium in message #1171:
Pit bulls have such a bad rap. My mother's renter had a little pit bull that was the sweetest little dog ever. She was not real bright, but very kind. She also thought she was made of paper: scared of anything even slightly threatening. The cats had her totally under their paws.

I'd be worried about that dog coming after HIM next time. That's some scary shit, yo.

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hade119 2010-06-13T20:24:33
subject: re: Dog fight...
in reply to dilanium in message #1171:
To my knowledge, a dog attack in this state is a CIVIL matter. The police only make reports for crimes. I'll double check that, but I'm pretty sure that is the case.

Normally, I carry my gun on me, but on this day it was "safely" locked up. Perfect.

I already paid the vet. I'm just gonna have to collect it from the people myself.

My pit is awesome. I found him in the street and kept him. He was very sick, and ended up costing me $2000 in surgery alone just to get him healthy. He's great with people, and usually great with dogs. But as soon as the Rottie attacked, he went into pitbull mode, and attacked back. The Rottie has a small tooth hole in his cheek... :P

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jadefalcon1 2010-06-14T15:02:14
subject: re: Dog fight...
in reply to hade119 in message #1173:
The cops should take a report, civil matter or not, because it is a dangerous animal and a public hazard. In fact, police take reports for all kinds of activity that isn't specifically criminal. Police escort for someone collecting belongings from a house where they were abused, for example. No crime of assault has been committed, but they're present as a preventative measure.

By the way, your standard-issue traffic infraction is, in fact, a civil infraction, not a criminal one (unless you're been VERY naughty).

Of course, doctrine and statute vary between localities. Depending on the particulars in your jurisdiction, the cops may not want to take a report for a number of reasons. There's a very revealing/damning series of reports about precincts in the New York area that pressure beat cops to "show activity" by meeting ticket quotas for particular types of activity while at the same time downgrading reported crimes to something less severe to make their statistics look better.

If you're interested, I can go dig up the link. Maybe it was Village Voice that was running it? It was one of the local papers. A cop recorded everything for over a year. Briefings, meetings, everything. Pretty gutsy move.

~Jade Falcon
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hade119 2010-06-14T15:34:25
subject: re: Dog fight...
in reply to jadefalcon1 in message #1174:
I was strictly talking about the "Complaint Report" in NYC. Not about any other form. (There are a million peices of paper the NYPD fills out of all sorts of retarded shit... DIRs, Accident Reports, etc... All of which are not nessisarily criminal, but a complaint report is for crimes, the only exception I can think of is that a complaint report IS taken for "lost property".) I forgot to check out if one is taken for a dog on dog attack, but I don't think so. There IS a "NYC Dog Bite Form" but it is only filled out when the dog bites a human.

NYPD is only worried about the "Seven Majors" in regards to crime numbers. Those are the ones they try to downgrade. Everything else, they'll take, because chances are, no action will be taken on the report anyway.

I saw the article, it was in the Daily News. Thanks.

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dcg 2010-06-14T17:26:04
subject: re: Dog fight...
in reply to hade119 in message #1175:
I had a lab that was infinitely more protective and vicious than any of my pitties and rotties. He's even killed other dogs, bitten people, whatever, but it was always provoked -- someone did something they weren't supposed too. Animal Control and the police were at my house numerous times with orders for his destruction, and every time were met by someone defiantly standing at the door while Buddy and I snuck out the back. No way I'd let my best friend be euthanized for trying to protect me.

That said, if you've got a vicious dog, or even just a protective dog, you'd better damn well keep them in check. I always had signs posted and he was never off leash except on the farm. And I never, under any circumstances left him alone with anyone who didn't know him, or let strangers pet him. If you can't do that, well, then you shouldn't have a dog. The owner should be just as liable for her dog's actions as her dog itself.

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dcg 2010-06-14T17:48:16
subject: re: kitty.
in reply to thedark in message #1167:
Someone should shoot you and put you out of your misery.

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jadefalcon1 2010-06-15T01:12:47
subject: re: kitty.
in reply to dcg in message #1177:
Not worth the jail time. Definitely worth the karma points to bump down, though.

~Jade Falcon
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dcg 2010-06-15T11:02:10
subject: re: kitty.
in reply to jadefalcon1 in message #1178:
he went from -1 to 0. Wtf.

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hade119 2010-06-15T14:06:55
subject: re: kitty.
in reply to dcg in message #1179:
I'm guessing Oz stepped in... Like he did for me, when I got pinged to death...

Only difference was, I was voicing my (unpopular) oppinion, and this guy is just being a troll...

Luckily, Oz saw my predicament the same way I did, and he helped me out... (Thanks again!)

Not sure if thats what happened here... Or maybe someone just felt pity on him, and gave him a plus... IDK...

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jadefalcon1 2010-06-15T14:48:16
subject: re: kitty.
in reply to dcg in message #1179:
no idea.

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dcg 2010-06-15T15:43:55
subject: re: kitty.
in reply to hade119 in message #1180:
pinged to death for an opinion? Even an unpopular one. Really?

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ironkitten82 2010-06-15T15:45:45
subject: re: kitty.
in reply to dcg in message #1182:

This is WTF, you know.


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dcg 2010-06-15T15:48:23
subject: re: kitty.
in reply to ironkitten82 in message #1183:
Yeah, I generally figured that unless you're a troll, nazi, rapist, murderer, or fucking little children, you're safe here. And Hade's none of the above.

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