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rehab 2007-09-06T14:26:02
subject: Re: new laptop being a bitch
in reply to jadefalcon1 in message #1080:
Yeah downloading gentoo now, although i am downloading the liveCD version with the idea that if it manages to boot properly to a desktop off the CD and everything works i can then nuke my freshly re-installed copy with vista.

I don't want to use vista in the long run but i do want a useable computer, so i cracked out the recovery DVD and about 2 fucking hours later, yes it really did take about 2hrs if you include the time taken for the driver CD that you are promted to insert, had finished patching everything. The really anoying part is that it was runing a sleep comand inbetween each patch of 10,30,600 thats 600 seconds) oh and don't forget the unexplained and frequent reboots and the long peroids of time stairing at a black screen. Anyway i have a semi usable laptop again.
Don't shoot the wounded
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spadeinfull 2007-09-06T21:56:05
subject: Re: new laptop being a bitch
in reply to rehab in message #1081:
whoa, is vista really that bad? most of my friends in the know are going to some variant of linux with beryl, no one i know uses vista .. this could be why..
myself i saw "aero" and thought yay eye candy that hogs space and system resources and decided to stick with xp as long as i could..
so is vista teh sux? or what? if so im going kubuntu or something when xp
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rehab 2007-09-07T05:21:08
subject: Re: new laptop being a bitch
in reply to spadeinfull in message #1082:
Well ill try to leave personal preference out of this and answer the question.

Why so many people say Vista sucks.....

Personally i think a lot of the shall we say less technical people don't want to switch to Vista for main 2 reasons, number 1 would be because its not XP. Obvious answer i know but they have prolly been using XP for 5 years or whatever it is now, and have grown used to its quirks and change can be hard, M$ really left it too long getting Vista out the door!! . The second reason is because the hardware requirements are insainly huge, linux with beryl or compiz will run fine with a 1Ghz cpu 256MB ram and some sort of graphics card thats 3D enabled (i know the actual minimium requirements are significantly less). Now for Vista you need a new computer less than about 3 months old with a good GPU for aero just to get the thing to run, and not everyone wants to shell out $2000 because M$ just released a new OS.

Ok thats the non technical reasons out the way.

Vista is bloated!!! i mean bloated to hell a standard install comes to some obseen amount i think 17GB, wow!! and i only installed this yesterday, only apps i've installed are zonealarm, pidgin and firefox so 50MB maybe, no music yet btw. The reason Vista is bloated is interesting, When M$ develops a new OS, internal things in the kernel will be changing on a regular basis which would normally break things i.e. break compatability with drivers or whatever. In linux thats fine you can just change the drivers becasue they are open source too mostly, but in windows all the drivers are binary blobs that M$ can't really change so what they do is create a new version of say how the kernel handles USB devices but keeps the old version aswell for compatability, sounds reasnable doesn't it, well imagine what happens if you did this 15 times in development, you get a massive amount of code doing the same thing but in slightly different ways. This is a classic thing M$ does even with file formats........
Also M$ has sold out there own customers to the record lables and included a truely nasty DRM system that is never going to prevent a determind person from doing what ever the hell they damn well want but will cripple the user experience for any normal person who just wants to play the HDVD film that a friend lent them or whatever.
Microsoft has also "improved" security with this release by copy unix systems by requireing people to have admin rights to install anything, woohoo they are learning, this is a good thing. But wait i am logged in right now as admin, i didn't choose to be an admin, it just made me admin by default, so i don't need to type a password in to do anything all i do is click next on a pop up. M$ should take another leaf out of *nix and stop peple logging in as root or atleast warn them that this is a bad idea.
Hmm while we are at it there are too many versions of Vista and the differences between vresions are confusing.
Oh Vista is a crippled version of longhorn, its missing key features that were supposed to be included but got dropped, the new winfs for example.
Aero is pointless its resource intensive and no where near as good at compix-fusion or beryl, go on youtube and type in "compiz-fusion" and be amazed, then be doubly amazed that such a thing can run on 3-5 year old hardware.
Oh finally earlier i said Vista shipped to late, well it also shipped to early because drivers are a reall issue on Vista, i can't say much about this because i haven't personally experienced this.


A few reasons why i think Vista is not a good OS, that said i do like the new kicker artwork ;)






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rehab 2007-09-07T19:30:58
subject: Re: new laptop being a bitch
in reply to rehab in message #1083:
well i have managed to install kubuntu 7.10 beta 5 and everything seems to work ok, the only problem i have had came when i tried to install the Nvidia proprietary driver using kbuntu's restricted driver wizard.

At the moment i am not sure if this is a Bug in kubuntu after all its beta, or a problem with the actual driver on my hardware. Anyway it crashed my xserver and i had to change the driver back to the basic nv driver and all was ok again.

Currently updating everything, i have ~210 updates to install which is not far off 1/2 the total number of packages installed.

Anyway i am just happy to be back in the DE that i love.



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kornmagik 2007-11-19T16:35:35
subject: Re: new laptop being a bitch
in reply to rehab in message #1084:
Vista isn't so bad. That being said, you're correct, it is bloated. The more we depend on M$'s sloppiness, the more effed up code we allow to run our computers. I'm only using vista for my Dx10 games, and even then, I'm starting to think that it's not worth it right now.

Disce quasi semper victurus; vive quasi cras moriturus
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paradox 2008-09-03T11:50:06
subject: GTK 2.0 theme
My GTK 2.0 theme has been published on freshmeat.

http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/thematrix/

I needed a theme with a dark background to skin gimp and pidgin on my Windows XP machine, but it will work for any GTK apps. I didn't like the ones I found out there, so I wrote my own. If you do try it out and find any bugs, let me know.






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"The Greatest Man That Ever Lived", Weezer (the red album)
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outzider 2010-09-07T11:02:39
subject: linux
christ, linux sucks. between md and lvm, i, and others, want to shoot [my/them]self in the face.

missing zfs already.

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jadefalcon1 2010-09-07T13:41:27
subject: re: linux
in reply to outzider in message #1087:
I'm not a fan of lvm, only because I haven't screwed around with it much. What is it about mdadm that's driving you up the wall? I'm pretty good with it, and haven't had any major (though some minor) gripes with it.

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outzider 2010-09-07T16:02:45
subject: re: linux
in reply to jadefalcon1 in message #1088:
Compare it to volume management on any other OS.

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"When your opponent is drowning, throw the son of a bitch an anvil." - James Carville
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jadefalcon1 2010-09-07T20:03:14
subject: re: linux
in reply to outzider in message #1089:
Windows? 'nuff said there.

Solaris? Why am I still using device paths that involve controllers and targets? Who the fuck calls partitions slices? And why should slice 6 be holy? (it always refers to the entire disk for some unimaginable reason)

Mac? Can't say much about it, haven't done volume management in Mac world.

I think lvm could be significantly improved, but mdadm is pretty solid. So again, what's your actual gripe? Or are you trying to be me and just raging in its general direction?

~Jade Falcon
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outzider 2010-09-08T06:23:09
subject: re: linux
in reply to jadefalcon1 in message #1090:
You obviously have never done actual volume management on Solaris. If you actually had to do disk management, you'd realize that knowing controllers and ports is actually important.

mdadm is not pretty solid. mdadm is for quick and dirty software RAID for home use. Doing anything more than that is a lesson that you should be buying $700 RAID cards instead.

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"When your opponent is drowning, throw the son of a bitch an anvil." - James Carville
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jadefalcon1 2010-09-08T12:18:40
subject: re: linux
in reply to outzider in message #1091:
And when the $700 raid card dies, and you can't get the exact same card because it's no longer available, you're fucked. Nope, portable software raid is far better that way.

I had to do disk management in a Sun E450. Three of them, in fact. The controller and port assignments had no logical correlation with the disk slots, and that's how Sun shipped them to us. Sorry, doesn't hold up.


Now, for serious, did you have an actual, specific question or were you just venting? I can respect venting, but I don't want to get into a religious argument about implementations if there isn't an actual issue to resolve.

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outzider 2010-09-08T17:37:12
subject: re: linux
in reply to jadefalcon1 in message #1092:
No, I don't have a fucking question, I was venting, because it fucking sucks shit compared to GEOM and ZFS.

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"When your opponent is drowning, throw the son of a bitch an anvil." - James Carville
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jadefalcon1 2010-09-08T21:37:36
subject: re: linux
in reply to outzider in message #1093:
Then vent away. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

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