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the_bob 2009-01-21T07:43:34
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3060:
Well, you're not really inspiring anything that can't be review by reading back a page or two.

You also hit the conflict almost right on. Each gender has it's own strengths and weaknesses. Not quite as misogynistic as you put it, but true regardless. You're also a prick, and most people saw that as open trolling, and most didn't want to get into a argument.... debate with you.



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You are reality's chew toy
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metalyxmii 2009-01-21T15:34:21
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to the_bob in message #3061:
See this is why I can't argue with women. I must inherently be wrong, or at least just being mean. Why oh why dear do you think I converse with the men so much better than you? Well, it's because the men have different ideas that don't revolve around themselves. Never you mind sugar pants, just put on the lingerie and I'll make you feel better in a few.

Perhaps that's why I save meaning for the religion forums...

Thou shalt drink of thy sister's cup deep and large: thou shalt be laughed to scorn and had in derision; it containeth much. - God
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spadeinfull 2009-02-02T21:43:56
subject: re: I can not get out of this mood.
in reply to goddessofperversity in message #3052:
now that was a winning reply. and to say "fuck you" to all the idiot men after your reply,
"i like my women like i like my whiskey, 12 years old, and mixed up with coke"

Şp♠Đę
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metalyxmii 2009-02-02T21:55:22
subject: re: I can not get out of this mood.
in reply to spadeinfull in message #3063:
Nice.

I like my women like I like my coffee. Cold and bitter. :(

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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hellion 2009-02-02T22:33:16
subject: re: I can not get out of this mood.
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3064:
like my tv dinners: hot on the outside, cold on the inside...

–noun Informal.
a disorderly, troublesome, rowdy, or mischievous person.
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metalyxmii 2009-02-02T22:37:50
subject: re: I can not get out of this mood.
in reply to hellion in message #3065:
Like my coffee, ground up and in the freezer.

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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spadesghost 2009-02-03T22:16:40
subject: re: I can not get out of this mood.
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3064:
"i like my women like i like my coffee" .. ANYONE ELSE WANT A BIG-ASS COFFEE?

şpitting Įn ŷour face, like a ?o?k..
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spadesghost 2009-02-03T22:25:13
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to the_bob in message #3061:
it's "an insult" bob, not "a insult" and you're still THE prick.
and an uncircumcised, UGLY left leaning, mole infested horse-sheathed one, at that.
go inseminate sheep in ireland you bloody wanker

şpitting Įn ŷour face, like a ?o?k..
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metalyxmii 2009-02-03T23:11:50
subject: re: I can not get out of this mood.
in reply to spadesghost in message #3067:
That's good but I like my women like I like my starbucks. Overpriced and on every corner with at least three teens in it.

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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metalyxmii 2009-02-06T22:40:26
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to spadesghost in message #3068:
Yeah well I like my like my women like I like my coffee, with a sandwich.

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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spadeinfull 2009-02-07T16:37:24
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3070:
like my women like i like my fictional authors, inked up in black on white,
with witty quotes that i will read once, enjoy fervently, and NEVER, ever
remember until im out of college

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metalyxmii 2009-02-12T13:54:14
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to spadeinfull in message #3071:
Well I like my women like I like my beer. Cold, flat and tasteless with no head.

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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spadeinfull 2009-02-12T15:06:51
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3072:
so necro. not to mention nasty.

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morbidskittle187 2009-12-06T07:45:18
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3059:
I would tend to believe- women being smaller and more agile they would also be faster, and men being stronger & bigger normally would be slower.
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morbidskittle187 2009-12-06T07:51:28
subject: re: I can not get out of this mood.
in reply to spadesghost in message #3067:
Yes.



"We, uh figured out how to travel through time at the speed of regular time with plastic bags" - Nathan Explosion
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metalyxmii 2009-12-06T13:50:41
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to morbidskittle187 in message #3074:
Tend to believe sure, but generally isn't the case. Sure we do get to see it with the extremes of (insert gender here) taken to the extreme. I don't care how strong a 450 pounder is, he's not moving too fast.

On to new things though.

Such as Semenya. Oh man do I love this noise. Good job here's the gold. WAIT A SEC! YOU"RE A MAN WITH GIRL BITS! GIVE THAT MEDAL BACK, MAN! I thought "she" ran a little fast...


Thou shalt drink of thy sister's cup deep and large: thou shalt be laughed to scorn and had in derision; it containeth much. - God
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what 2009-12-06T22:02:24
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to morbidskittle187 in message #3074:
Height strength weight ratios - of all humans, pre-pubescent females are the winners. That is why they are gymnasts & ballerinas.
They deliberately stress their bodies with so much training that it delays the onset of puberty and extends their careers.

Lay down in the aisle and flail
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metalyxmii 2009-12-06T22:09:57
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to what in message #3077:
Perhaps. Keeping in mind the extreme lack of weight they have, I disagree. Granted they do have some strength, it's not even in the same category as hard core urban sprinters. 150lbs moving at gravity plus weight, trying to distribute force before catastrophic injury.

They sentiment your arguing comes from the same place as asian enthusiasts.

"But (asian guy) has a 50" vertical."
"That's true. He also is 4'6", and weighs 125lbs. Mr. 6'2" weighs 200lbs and has a 25" vertical, but the strength required is much greater and more stressful."

Less leverage with us bigger guys. Pushing 250lbs for us is like 60-80lbs for the ballerina.

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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morbidskittle187 2009-12-07T06:52:07
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3078:
I assume, since you're so sure of yourself, your argument is based on scientific data. Prove it.

"And if we seem nutty to you , and if we seem like an odd ball to you, just remember one thing; The mighty oak tree was once a nut just like me. " - Glenn Turner
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metalyxmii 2009-12-07T11:28:25
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to morbidskittle187 in message #3079:
Do you want me to find the correlates on muscle density (short muscle is more dense, hence stronger) or would you like me to give you the physics equations for force and motion?

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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morbidskittle187 2009-12-07T15:04:12
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3080:
I want it all.

"And if we seem nutty to you , and if we seem like an odd ball to you, just remember one thing; The mighty oak tree was once a nut just like me. " - Glenn Turner
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metalyxmii 2009-12-07T18:28:01
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to morbidskittle187 in message #3081:
F1 × d1 = F2 × d2

F1(force) X D1(distance to fulcrum)=F2(force) X D2(distance to fulcrum)
Solve for F2, and assume F1 is constant:

(F1 X D1)/D2= F2:

Assuming F1 is constant, the only way to change F2 is to change the distances between the fulcrum. Therefore, assuming that the muscle density is the same, smaller people are stronger. I.e., a larger person has to be stronger to exert the same output force, but can exert that force over a longer distance.

#2

Power = force/time.

P=FMM2 (force mass motion) Power equals force X equivalent distance X mass of object.

Ballerina weighs 37Kgs (82lbs), and jumps 1m (39.37inches) into the air.
This requires force for jumping as well as gravity.
To reach a velocity of 2.2mps/sq, the force required is about 81.4N(newtons).
This amount of force is generated (at the beginning of the jump) in about .1s (second)
Therefore, power equals 81.4N/.1s=814N/s

Now for a 220lbs (100kg) basketball player to jump the same 1m distance.
100 X 2.2mpssq=newtons 220N
220N/.1s= 2200N/s.

Strong is a relative term. Sure she may seem "strong" for somebody her size, but the basketball team will still easily overpower and "rape" her.
Kobe's innocent, he's just strong. (relatively)

Not including law of conservation of energy, and the mechanical disadvantage provided by the difference in femur length.

And because I'm bored, I will not at this point do the figures for the increase in mass and force plus gravity to hammer home impact velocity. But trust me, when a man punches his wife, it hurts a lot more than when she punches him.

That's why feminist enthusiasts tend to get low paying jobs giving massages instead of high paying science based jobs. Inequality exists, even in the best possible examples of otherwise.




All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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what 2009-12-07T19:15:14
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3082:
I'm sorry, I think I said ratio.

Female gymnasts are strongest in proportion to their weight. I did not say they are Mr. Universe.
Of course a man hitting his wife is going to hurt more.
And of course some male bodybuilders with great anabolic strength often cannot run for the bus in time.

And of course being a male, you may have been biased by gender when you read my post. Can you tell I'm baiting you yet?

We could go so far as to discuss the intelligence of earning money via massage, rather than massaging one's member for free, but I couldn't be bothered :)


Lay down in the aisle and flail
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metalyxmii 2009-12-07T19:51:07
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to what in message #3083:
But it's not a direct ratio. Strength isn't a unit of measurement. Force is.

Proportional to their weight, they're not that strong. Even tumbling at the professional level is a facet of velocity, and leverage use.
The smaller you are and the less you way, the less force is necessary to move said object. Just the same for men, as it is for women. Except men tend to get larger.

They don't train themselves so hard they lose out on developing sexual characteristics. Usually there's some form of malnutrition assisting.

I'm not biased because I'm a male. I'm biased because I'm always right.

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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morbidskittle187 2009-12-08T07:44:58
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3082:
Inequality exists because people like you think women can't possibly be better at something than a man. Especially not physically demanding scenarios.

Read this:
http://www.jaxtrainer.com/m-vs-w.html



-Skittle-
I am accustomed to sleep, and in my dreams to imagine the same things that lunatics imagine when awake. -Rene Descartes
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metalyxmii 2009-12-08T09:13:09
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to morbidskittle187 in message #3085:
That's hilarious, that really is. I really haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

Now I'll explain the various ways in which you're wrong, and ask some questions.

Are you officially declaring me a sexist? Cause that would be great, and fits the rhyme scheme. Sexist, atheist, hedonist, etc...

Interesting article. So I'm supposed to glean the all important truth here, that muscle is muscle. Men just tend to develop more of it and better use of it out the door? Is that not what I've been arguing? Read on, as the next line will help with this line of thought.

Inequality exists because people like you etc...

Are you serious? (sigh) Do you know why inequality exists? Because the world isn't the wonderful disney place mom or school tells you it is. Inequality exists, because, try as hard as you ever possible could, you will not be my equal. Really. Let's take a beat to digest this.






Good. You and I are not and will never be equal. Want to tell me I'm wrong? I can hear the bitter girl bits getting angry. Tough shit, have a baby and tell me we're equal. Life is not "everything you can do I can do better". Some things I do better than you, and some of the things I can do you simply cannot. Some things you do better than me, and some things you can do I simply cannot.

None of us are equal in any sense. The problem, like religion, is that people like you get indoctrinated into the thought that we are. People have inherit worth. People have value, whether or not we choose to accept that we can be better than each other. Go ahead, formulate an argument that contradicts me. Even for a little bit, you know that you're right, and I'm wrong. Therefore, I'm not as good or right or equal. I'm simply measuring a facet in which we are not equal.

Just to make sure we're in understanding here. Inequality exists because WE ARE NOT EQUAL. Not you, not me, not Joe down the street, not men, not women, not blacks or chinese or anyone.

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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what 2009-12-08T17:26:54
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3084:
No malnutrition. That's another sweeping generalisation you've made :D

Women need minimum 20-30% body fat to menstruate. I know some Olympic squad gymnasts and I've trained to state champ level for rowing myself. It's simply using muscles so often, so long, from a prepubescent age that trains the body to bulk more muscle and store less fat. The calories are there, just used for expending energy faster.

When I spent 20 hrs/wk training, I had six pack abs and at the end of season I could open a bottle of beer on my forearm. I also lost my periods save some spotting 1 day per month. I never got sick and I had a huge ass :) Perhaps you could argue "masculine" training promotes hormone imbalance - you'd win that argument.

But malnutrition? Psh.

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what 2009-12-08T17:47:54
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to metalyxmii in message #3084:
I did forget to mention flexibility. So the points were ratio of ability (with a subset of strength, weight and omitted flexibility), while you disappeared on a giant rant of all powerful force. Then you threw down the malnutrition.

"Usually"

If you're "always" right, I fail to see why you should bother posting.
If you post because you want to lead the ignorant to the light, I fail to see why you prefer to be arrogant :)
It would increase your Enlightenment success rate if you brought the blind happily to conclusions, than blindside them with your asshole.

There are others here who are great teachers, but they only make money by working in massage. However their lessons are enduring, well learned and even appreciated!

I think you've missed the value of quality, not quantity. Especially in regards to your ego :)

Lay down in the aisle and flail
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chuckster 2009-12-08T18:33:54
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to what in message #3088:
I think the, "I'm biased because I'm always right," was meant as humor. It had me chuckling at any rate.


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metalyxmii 2009-12-08T21:41:06
subject: re: Riddle me this,
in reply to what in message #3088:
Hey now kitty cat, it's not like that.

The truth isn't pretty. The truth isn't nice. If anyone can claim to be happy about something, then they really don't realize how bad things are.

Force with flexibility is easy. The farther away from the fulcrum, the less force produced. I can't do the splits, (oh here we go with inequality again) and I don't know anyone who can do damage with them.

Perhaps I was wrong about malnutrition. My bad.

There are no really great teachers here. It's very little more than a small community of people agreeing with each other. That's not teaching, that's a circle jerk. Can be fun, but let's not confuse the two. I merely represent the guy who says, "wow, this shit's pretty gay".

I'm frankly surprised that this has hit such a strong cord. Let it go dude.

Finally, you leave my god-damned ego out of this! He's perfect in every way and I won't stand for some harlot making jests.

All universal moral principles are idle fancies.
-Marquis De Sade
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