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outzider 2010-02-22T17:18:40
subject: parenting
welcome to the parenting board. discuss parenting tips, stories, trials, tribulations, and the eventual enslaving of the world by your spawn.

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chuckster 2010-02-22T17:29:59
subject: re: parenting
in reply to outzider in message #1:
And now they're not just children, they're carbon footprints...

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niroe 2010-02-22T23:31:40
subject: re: parenting
in reply to chuckster in message #2:
Ain't that the truth... And I'm all about enslaving the world with my spawn. I can't believe that over 10 years ago I was on here and sitting in a college dorm and now I'm posting on a parenting board about my midgets.

Soooo... Ethan just turned 5 (I feel so old). We through him his first "real" birthday party with a bunch of his friends from school ... at Chuck E Cheese. I have to say that as annoying and crazy as that place is, the party was super cheap, the kids had a blast, and the staff do EVERYTHING for you. Can't beat it. I posted a bunch of party pics on FB. Nothing beats watching the pathetic staff having to dance and sing with some asshole in a mouse suit getting romped by dozens of little people.

Genevieve hit 17 months this week. She's gained quite the vocabulary in the last few weeks. She can communicate quite well for her age... this past week she told daddy to "Stop it" when he moved one of the laptops from her grasp. A princess in the making... Next she'll be dating some punk from school and telling us to fuck off. I can't wait.

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chuckster 2010-02-23T06:21:08
subject: re: parenting
in reply to niroe in message #3:
Ah yes, time just has a knack for melting away, doesn't it? My sweet little footprint just turned ... pause for effect... THIRTY! No, wait, that was almost six months ago. I bought the sweet little bugger a t-shirt for his birthday that he dearly loves. It says, "My parents said I could be anything I wanted when I grew-up, so I became an ASSHOLE!" Oh the little darlings.

But in reality, my only regret is that I only had one child... well, at least that I know of :D Nothing more character building than having co-conspirator/arch-enemy brothers and sisters. Not that my little cherub isn't a character.

Baby's first power word? NO!

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niroe 2010-02-23T23:14:01
subject: re: parenting
in reply to chuckster in message #4:
It says, "My parents said I could be anything I wanted when I grew-up, so I became an ASSHOLE!" Oh the little darlings.

The first t-shirt I bought my son was when he was 3 mos old and it said,"Daddy drinks because I cry." Thank God for TShirtHell.com. It only gets better from there.


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schwul 2010-02-28T02:22:20
subject: re: parenting
in reply to niroe in message #5:
Good lord, five posts in and I'm already laughing my ass off. I do hope my brother procreates. I won't rule out raising my own someday; however, it looks pretty unlikely considering my relationship-destroying tendencies, my inability to keep even a houseplant alive, and the expense of reproducing/adopting when neither partner possesses a uterus.



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dilanium 2010-02-28T02:27:24
subject: re: parenting
in reply to schwul in message #6:
Buy a cactus. Put it in a sunny spot. Give it a tablespoon of water every other week. If you forget for a while, it's okay, just give it a tablespoon and continue as before.

Get back to us after a few months whether it's alive or not.

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schwul 2010-02-28T03:20:08
subject: re: parenting
in reply to dilanium in message #7:
Hrm. Will consider. Sunny spot in my house might be part of the issue, although the plant-nurturing inability dates back many years.



-schwul

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ironkitten82 2010-02-28T11:21:17
subject: re: parenting
in reply to schwul in message #6:

If I ever have kids, you can be one of the uncles that gives them loud and 'some assembly required' toys.


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genipher 2010-02-28T21:15:19
subject: re: parenting
in reply to schwul in message #6:
it's funny that you kept bottles full of various plant-feeding potions around yet couldn't keep a plant alive, but a baby won't let you forget to feed it - your argument is invalid. :)

i was at melkor's parents' house today. FMIL explained how she picked out melkor's name. it means "father of many." he's great with all his nieces and nephews, but she thinks he'll be a wonderful father. i agreed with her. she asked me if i want kids, too, and i said yes. a few moments later she asked me if we're trying to get pregnant right now!

had i said something the wrong way that made her think we were trying to get pregnant?*i really don't think so. she's not exactly desperate for grandchildren; she has 12 of them now. so...does she think her son melkor is so awesome, such a good daddy, that she'd like him to start a family now, before we're married, even though her religious beliefs discourage children being born outside of marriage? um, MAYBE...?


*we don't have our crap together quite enough to get married just yet; kids are currently out of the question.



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chuckster 2010-03-04T05:28:10
subject: Walking colony of bacteria
The first results of an international effort to catalog the millions of non-human genes inside people found about 170 different bacteria species thriving in the average person's digestive tract.

More than 99 percent of the different types of genes in our bodies are not in fact human, but come from microbes. So cataloging the genetics of bacteria inside of us will improve vastly on the mapping of the human genome, study co-author Jun Wang, a Chinese genomics researcher.

Bacteria "rule this planet, including our body," study co-author Jeroen Raes, a researcher at the European Molecular Biology Laboratory in Germany, said in an e-mail. "I think it's important that people realize that we are not really human -- we are a walking colony of bacteria

So, it took an international study to discover what parents of small children knew all along.

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chuckster 2010-03-17T07:24:09
subject: The Cat Years
Something parents of young children have to look forward.

Found some years back in:
San Francisco Chronicle
Adair Lara

THE CAT YEARS

I just realized that while children are dogs--loyal and affectionate--teen-agers are cats. It's so easy to be a dog owner. You feed it, train it, boss it around. It puts its head on your knee and gazes at you as if you were a Rembrandt painting. It bounds indoors with enthusiasm when you call it.
Then, around age 13, your adoring little puppy turns into a big old cat. When you tell it to come inside, it looks amazed, as if wondering who died and made you emperor. Instead of dogging your footsteps, it disappears. You won't see it again until it gets hungry--then it pauses on its sprint through the kitchen long enough to turn its nose up at whatever you're serving. When you reach out to ruffle its head, in that old affectionate gesture, it twists away from you, then gives you a blank stare, as if trying to remember where it has seen you before.
You, not realizing that the dog is now a cat, think something must be desperately wrong with it. It seems so antisocial, so distant, sort of depressed. It won't go on family outings.
Since you're the one who raised it, taught it to fetch and stay and sit on command, you assume that you did something wrong. Flooded with guilt and fear, you redouble your efforts to make your pet behave.
Only now you're dealing with a cat, so everything that worked before now produces the opposite of the desired result. Call it, and it runs away. Tell it to sit, and it jumps on the counter. The more you go toward it, wringing your hands, the more it moves away.
Instead of continuing to act like a dog owner, you can learn to behave like a cat owner. Put a dish of food near the door, and let it come to you. But remember that a cat needs your help and your affection too. Sit still, and it will come, seeking that warm, comforting lap it has not entirely forgotten. Be there to open the door for it.
One day, your grown-up child will walk into the kitchen, give you a big kiss and say, "You've been on your feet all day. Let me get those dishes for you." Then you'll realize your cat is a dog again.


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dilanium 2010-03-17T13:08:37
subject: re: The Cat Years
in reply to chuckster in message #12:
so funny. While I was reading that. my cat kept batting me with his paw and eventually jumped on my lap demanding attention. :)

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naiiad 2010-03-27T19:31:51
subject: re: The Cat Years
in reply to chuckster in message #12:
So true. I've been living this for a while now.

Ooops... Wrong Planet...
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dcg 2010-04-15T16:36:37
subject: Okay, so maybe I'm not her mom exactly...
...but I've certainly had a hand in raising my sister. I'm the one she goes too when shit hits the fan, I'm the one she asks for money, I'm the one who made her lunches for school, counseled her when she broke up with boyfriends etc.

Well, she's been dating this complete douchebag for a while. An off and on kind of relationship. Every time she calls me, I hear stupid stories about how he bashed her head into a wall, or called her this name or that name, or how she thinks he's cheating on her and Oh Big Sister, what do I do? I need advice!

Well, she's 18 years old. So telling her how retarded she is and that she's not allowed to see him (like my parents do) isn't going to work. So. I tell her she needs to think about herself, and whether or not this is a happy relationship and whether or not she needs to be part of it. I remind her how beautiful she is, how intelligent she is, and how his behavior is not normal or acceptable.

Today she found out he was cheating on her (again). And I guess she's had enough, because she broke up with him again, via text message. And he called me all depressed and manipulative talking about how he wanted to off himself because he loved her so much and this other girl was lying and trying to break him and her up. Typical high school bullshit. Except he's 23. A year older than me. He should know better.

Anyway, I ask my sister about it, she gives me the details, and her phone rings for the hundredth time in five minutes, and this time, he leaves voicemail.

Where he tells her she's a worthless bitch, stupid, and needs to learn to keep her goddamn legs closed. Where he tells her to move, because if he sees her in this town again, he's going to rape and murder her, just like she deserves.

And then he drives up to the coffee shop where her and I and her best friend are sitting. Parks outside and stares at us through the window. And then follows us to my parents' house. So, I send my sister and her friend inside, grab the baseball bat out of the back of my dad's car and walk up to his window, roll it down and ask him what his problem is. He immediately bursts into tears, talks about how he loves her so much and he can't live without her and he's going to kill himself and he's here because he wants to see her one more time.

So I ask him "So. Need help?"
"Yes! Please! Can you ask her to come outside?"
"No No. I don't think you understand. I meant, help killing yourself"
"what?"
"You heard me."

He erupts into this rage, tries to leave his truck, I slam his door back shut, stick my face right in his and tell him he needs to start driving. So he tells me he'll be back for me. I tell him to try me,

And I go back inside and my sister, watching this whole thing from the window gives me this gigantic hug and thanks me, and promises me it's really over this time.

They'll be back together by the end of the night.

How the hell do you people deal with this shit?

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dilanium 2010-04-15T16:51:14
subject: re: Okay, so maybe I'm not her mom exactly...
in reply to dcg in message #15:
Still have that voicemail?

I would take it to the police and get a restraining order or something similar out on him.

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dcg 2010-04-15T16:56:06
subject: re: Okay, so maybe I'm not her mom exactly...
in reply to dilanium in message #16:
Yeah, that's what we're doing. She's already called them in the past when he's hit her. I don't know if they'll give her a restraining order though. It's a small town and his grandparents own most of it.

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cyco 2010-04-15T21:59:27
subject: re: Okay, so maybe I'm not her mom exactly...
in reply to dcg in message #17:
Sounds like someone needs a proper ass kicking. A guy can't beet on a woman its just one of those rules. That kind of thing makes me sick.

Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals open your eyes.
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valkyrie 2010-04-16T09:34:56
subject: re: Okay, so maybe I'm not her mom exactly...
in reply to dcg in message #15:
"No No. I don't think you understand. I meant, help killing yourself"

I love you for this line.

As for your sister, I'd get her to a domestic abuse/battered women shelter and have her talk to some of the counselors there (along with the whole restraining order thing). They are far better equipped to deal with the victim mentality than you are. Having her talk to some of the women there may be helpful too--they'll understand because they've been where she is. I'd be good for you to talk to the counselors too, so you can get some advice and support for your position.

What you are doing--being supportive, loving, nonjudgmental, and protective--is about the best you can do. When she finally pulls her head out of her ass, she'll come back to you.



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